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Awesome info. If possible, could you email me?
How long has she been training with you?
Just wondering if her body has had that adaptation time that it takes
This seems like a good discussion…why go “off” forum?
first off……I hope someone removes whatever it is beststraus has posted
Welcome. There are a lot of things i/we do not know about you to give a great answer. Like any times to go off of, swimming background, we’re those 4 practices in one week, etc?
I would start by reading this bulletin as it goes into how to break into USRPT.
As for your heart, well I would give you the old “before starting any exercise program, consult with your physician to make sure you’re healthy enough.” 🙂 That being said & assuming you’re healthy enough, USRPT will be just fine & more than likely will approve heart health over other training styles.
I don’t have much of an answer but want to piggy back your question. This is my daughters (freshman in hs) meet schedule with high school & club coming up.
January 8 – high school meet
January 10-12 – club meet
January 16-18 – club meet
January 23 – high school meet
January 28- high school conference champs
January 30-1 – club meet
February 6 – high school regional championships
February 12 – high school state championships
February 26 – club age group championships
March 12 – club age group sectionals
Just want to make sure we’re not over or under doing it
Thanks for posting the question
Early vertical forearm
good stuff billratio,
This too is my first year & while I love it….I have a lot to learn. I struggle with pacing versus conditioning. For example I have 14yo girl (my daughter) with a 1:01 100fly. If I were to put her on the 1:00 for her 100, she would probably make 13.0-13.5 (she’s made 12.5-12.8 before)from the push but she doesn’t come close to that pace “during” the actual race. We’ve been training usrpt for 5 months & she hasn’t swam her pb yet which is frustrating…..some of it is mental with her at this point too :). Might try it though, 12 x 25 on the 1:00 & see how it goes. Would boost her confidence for sure 🙂
Every kid is different & we’re still trying to figure it out with her
Another great thread!!
Rick…I am in NC
billratio & oldschool, did you refer to doing 25’s on the 1:00 for 100’s? I’ve gotten so use to doing them with the rest that doc recommends.
This is a great thread….
1) when you say 4k tvw & 2k is RP, is the other 2k warm up, warm down, technique work, etc?
2) same question as Rob, do you use the misses/fail out of the set that doc speaks of? I actually stopped using it. We still track total offered/made but they complete the entire set (outside of injury, etc)
Thanks for all the help.
There are a few variables in there but one thing for sure, do not use goal times as pace times. A couple important variables is whether they are coming off of layoff or have they been swimming? Next is…..are they starting usrpt for the first time?
As per doc, swimmers who are not in their swim shape or are just starting this type of a program will take their established time and even ad time for their pace time until they begin to adapt. So a swimmer who swims a 1:00 100free may need to hold 16’s (instead of 15’s) until they adapt.
hope that helps some
PaulOctober 23, 2014 at 1:06 pm in reply to: Psychologica/Emotional Profile of Swimmers and USRPT #1996
I’m with ya. This is our first year of USRPT & I knew going into it that it would be tougher mentally on some more than others.
For example: I have a 14yo girl who has swam year round since she was 6…..all traditional. She has never been one to blow it out in practice but she does pretty well in meets. She makes JO’s and sectionals every year. Going in I figured If I had her racing more (USRPT) that things would kick in & she would become the swimmer I believe she really is…….NOT HAPPENING.
Being “on the clock” for all these sets has really messed with her head. She feels like a failure most of the time & lately will stop in the middle of a set because she “thinks” she can’t hold the time. I ask her what she thinks the consequences will be if she doesn’t & she doesn’t have an answer. She doesn’t push all that hard so she tends to miss a lot of her intervals. I was doing the 2 in a row or 3 misses & your done like the doc says but for this swimmer, she would get in about 200 yards total is she did that.
I’m kind of at a loss as to what to do with her. I’m just letting her get though it for now
Would be interesting to see if boys were prone to do better with this system
I saw where MA arrived late to a meet & said he swam a 50 free to warm up then proceeded to set a couple PB’s
Our warm ups are just about identical to our practice warm ups (practice should mimic meet). By the time other teams are just getting into their 2500yds of drills, we are on the blocks for a few dives then we disappear 🙂
I see these coaches who LOVE warm ups at meets because they can bark out lots of orders in front of a lot of people…..it’s comical.
Might be too late to comment but….
We do the exact same warm up at a meet as we do in practice. After all, practice is suppose to emulate the meet right 🙂 We get to practice, I talk to them, they do a brief warm up, then we race……..same at the meet. And that goes for if we have our own warm up lane or we’re thrown in with 2 other teams. We have also been to meets where there were just too many kids in the warm up lane so my kids warmed up individually before there events. I’m not going to have them beat to death, do a bunch of 1 arm fly, or screw there pace up.
Our warms ups are just that……a warm up. All the technical stuff should have been dialed in at practice. At our last meet there were teams doing 2000-3000 yards for their warm up!!! I don’t get it but there coaches sure do love to hear their own voice barking out those big warm up sets 🙂
Good luck at the meet,
I agree…..they like that the workout says “IM” even though it’s a regular 200’s set 🙂
sometimes we will do 16 x 25’s evenly divided among the IM strokes and on the 4th they make the transition turn to start the next 4.
we also do the occasional 50’s (fly/back, etc) & I just have them rest 20s then go
I like having them start their miss count a little later in the set at the beginning of the season
what do your IM sets look like?