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April 16, 2015 at 6:32 am #2481
This week-end will be the deal-breaker for us. We’ve been doing USRPT with our age-groupers (9 to 11 yo) since january (tried last fall with two of our swimmers once a week with good results).
We train three sessions/week, one hour each. We have been able to do do two sets every session working on 12,5m or 25m.
The upcoming competitions is a recurring semi-annual event, so it will be possible to compare progression to previous years and since fall. Not fully “scientific”, but still ineresting.
The competition distances for 9-10 yo are 50’s (25 BF and 100 IM) and for 11 yo 100’s (50 BF and 100 IM).
Keep you posted in the replies.April 19, 2015 at 8:14 pm #2490
So here it comes:
out of 154 swims, 131 PBs (85%). All swimmers PB’d on 2 or more of their swims.
Example average improvement on 100m IM for the group: 6,5% (from 1:52,94 [range 1:35,31-2:00,23] to 1:46,07 [range l:28,72-1:55,69]). Last years improvement rate was 3,2% (1:54,34 [1:51,67-2:01,98] to 1:50,83 [1:40,13-2:06,98]).
the competition distances were
25bf, 50bk, 50br, 50fr, 100 IM (9-10 yo)
50bf, 100bk, 100br, 100fr, 100IM (11 yo)
Success rate can be connected with attendance rate (no regression lines available though…)
Best results were seen with bk, br and fr.
Mostly had problems with improvement on butterfly. We’ve been doing 12,5’s on bf, since most swimmers were doing 25’s at the meet. It didn’t seem to be very efficient for bf though… butterfly PB success rate was only 76%. Anyone have any ideas on a better strategy? Maybe 15-20m sprints AFAP from the blocks/wall?April 20, 2015 at 7:01 am #2493dmueckeParticipant
I coach a similar group (10-12y) and face the same issues with bf. Actually I’m experimenting with 25s with block start and walking back and as a alternative 25s bf w/ fins.April 20, 2015 at 11:22 am #2494
I coach a similar group (10-12y) and face the same issues with bf. Actually I’m experimenting with 25s with block start and walking back and as a alternative 25s bf w/ fins.
It should be stressed though, that we’ve never had so few DQ’s with the younger participants, and this year, we were more confident with entering the older ones for the 50…
Further updates on progression (from any competition, last one was two weeks ago) average improvement (seconds):
25 bf: 1,33s (15/20 pb)
50 bf: 4,15s (6/7 pb)
50 bk: 2,88s (21/22 pb)
50 br: 1,77s (19/24 pb)
50 fr: 2,46s (22/26 pb)April 21, 2015 at 4:03 pm #2496dmueckeParticipant
How do you train 50s? Are you doing 12.5m intervals? For breast stroke I split my group into 4 teams put 2 teams at opposite walls and 2 teams in the middle (both sides of the lane) and let them all teams start at the same time (2nd in teams after 5s and so on). We start every 25 seconds. It works well and the kids love it but don’t think it will work with other strokes.April 22, 2015 at 4:27 pm #2497
We’ve been doing it kind of like that too. In a 50m pool we split it in three or four sections (12m or 15m sections) doing water starts. For these kids, 50 m is aerobic enough for USRPT to be valuable (and 9-10yo’s aren’t particularly alactic-CP-ATP). Otherwise it has been 25s for the 50m events.
I did not include 100 stroke results above because we had not competed very much on those distances earlier, so the pb rate was quite high, but of little comparative interest.
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