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Greg TuckerParticipantI’d be interested to know what kind of sets they are doing for the 200 and 500?
20 x 75 or 30 x 50 is a tough set for 500 training. But that’s the minimum that needs to be done before you will start to see results in my opinion. Takes a while. We had to work our way up to that many reps. But when the kids accomished it, they had good 500 times.
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Greg TuckerParticipantOn his soapbox. Oldschool takes on traditionalists. I love it!!
Two of our girls wore their #USRPT buttons on their prom dresses last night. For real. When was the last time a swimmer wore their Traditional Training button their prom dress?
Kids love this stuff. At least ours do.
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Greg TuckerParticipantI liked the comments and discussion attached to the clip better than the clip itself.
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Greg TuckerParticipantOld school,
What parameters do you use for failure and sitting out?
Miss two race pace reps in a row? Miss three total in a set?
Once they fail the set, do they go to a recovery lane?
Back to the 60%… If they can swim 69 percent of the yards offered, are you then confident they can hit their meet goal tunes? I guess I think they must hit 100 percent if their set before they can achieve their meet goal. That is, complete all 24 x 25 at 15 secs every 30 seconds means you should be able to swim 100 or better in a meet.
I love this stuff.
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Greg TuckerParticipantOldschool, you are new school. Thanks for your response. I, too, am enjoying the conversation.
Don’t know if you have time, but I would love it if you took a few minutes and waded through the previous topics on this board and gave your perspectives where appropriate.
Thanks.
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Greg TuckerParticipantWe have 5-7 coaches on deck. We had 31 state qualifiers, 12 of those were summer swim league girls. We had 68 percent personal bests at our league meet on top of 75 percent at a mini-taper meet 3 weeks earlier. We had numerous girls with substantial drops. For example, a young lady came into a mid-season week at 108 in fly. Swam 105 on Thurs, then 103 on Sat. She bought in, worked hard and it paid off.
All practices are tailored to specific races and strokes so, no, we do not all swim the same thing. Our HC is a master organizer during warm-up depending on who is swimming that day. We also shuffle as needed to make lane management less insane. We will swim 11 in a lane for 50s. It may be a mix of freestylers and backstrokers, all lined up by their goal time. It’s insane but we make it work.
Our girls love it. Hope that answers your questions.
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Greg TuckerParticipant7500 offered. 55 girls in the pool. Don’t know how much was completed. 3 sets M, W, F. 2 sets T, Th, S. One practice per day. No doubles.
We didn’t train for 500. Left than to club teams.
Interested to know how you got to 14K offered.
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Greg TuckerParticipant68 percent lifetime beats at end of year meet. That’s on top of 75 percent personal beats at a meet three weeks earlier in a lightening fast pool.
Should have included the numbers in my “swam well” comment.
I also forgot to add that we dropped reps in the taper I described in my original message.
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Greg TuckerParticipantNot sure much is advocated, but we probably did 7500 yards at race pace during a week.
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Greg TuckerParticipantBen, welcome. Good luck with your training. See my note on USRPT Does Not Have to Be Boring. Our kids live it. They look forward to the pool everyday.
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Greg TuckerParticipantThanks. Good program. Let us know his results.
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Greg TuckerParticipantI’m pretty sure Rushall advocates swimming 25s and 50s as training for 100s
I was just wondering what percentage of each people use when training for 100s.
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Greg TuckerParticipantRick
I am pretty sure this is repeat set training at high intensity, not USRPT.
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Greg TuckerParticipantYrs, failure is not swimming the rep at the desired time.
As the distances decrease, the need for more precise timing of your reps increases. For example, there is a potentially big training difference on a rep at 12.1 vs 12.9. One might be success, the other a failure in 25s for 50 training. Ideally, you would have someone timing you or at least be able to discern 12 low vs 12 high if you don’t have a timer. Guess it depends on if you have a coach with a watch or if you are training alone.
Again, good luck. Let us know how your training goes and your results at the upcoming meet.
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Greg TuckerParticipant50s are a different beast in USRPT. 12.5 and 25s are the yardage. All reps should be all out based on your desired time. 15 secs of rest between each rep. Lots of skill work on starts, Underwaters, breakouts and finishes.
Reps for 12.5s would 12-20. Reps for 50s would be 6-10. Timing would be to 1/10 of second, If you fail, sit. No slow swimming when you train for 50s. Don’t cheat. If you miss, sit. You can dive on one end, then push on the other end.
Typically no more than 2 strokes per set. Would do 3 sets on M, W, F. 2 sets on T, Th, S. Two weeks before meet I would unload a bit more by doing 2 sets on F.
The week of the meet I would do 3 sets Monday, 2 on Tues, 2 on Wed, 2 on Th and 1 on Friday assuming you swim Sat.I would do lots of starts throughout.
Just my $0.02. Others may have different ideas.
Good luck.
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