Denaj
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Our country is taking things pretty seriously. The national team got pulled out of an upcoming competition and we backed out of hosting another international meet (of which we were 3 time champions). We didn’t provide an alternative however. This was before we had any cases.
It can be a bit of a letdown to train so hard with anticipation and then nothing.
? P2Life - Performance NutritionThat’s a very interesting take @marlin. I never thought of using stroke count as a criterion for failure in a set. I knew it should be monitored, but just never approached it in that way. That’s also a good habit to develop for the end of the race to maintain quality.
? P2Life - Performance NutritionWelcome Tony. Glad to have you and look forward to having you add to the forums.
? P2Life - Performance NutritionQuick note @agswimcoach the set that you indicated above has too much rest time. For 25s the goal is 15 seconds rest with a tolerance of 13s at the lowest and 18s rest at the highest. So the interval should be 25seconds which will significantly change the demand of the set. You might wanna hit up the latest USRPT belletin
? P2Life - Performance NutritionYes! Thanks for sharing. I really like to see swimmers having fun. They put in way too many hours to not enjoy what they’re doing.
Let’s start a music video thread: Here’s one I did for my kids last June when I left the club.
? P2Life - Performance NutritionSwimming/USRPT aside, one thing I have invested in is my ability to teach/communicate effectively. From what I gather you already have the knowledge and it’s just a matter of imparting it. Sometimes it’s simple things like only teaching one thing at a time and teaching those things in a logical order.
The problem is not a lack of knowledge. I can show my swimmers videos of themselves and they will be able to correctly assess themselves, yet they return to the same messed up technique.
There are a lot of factors here to discuss, but I have found great value in working on my teaching skills e.g. clear outlines, opportunities for application, problem solving, etc…
? P2Life - Performance NutritionGood advice Glenn.
@kendrew111 Warmup has two purposes:-
1. To get warm (blood flow)
2. Familiarity (with race-specific speed)It doesn’t take much to get warm and a few 50s or 25s (depending on the race) at race-speed will do the trick.
? P2Life - Performance NutritionIs this what you are referring to:
http://parametrix.org/pubs/allytodd_2.pdf
? P2Life - Performance NutritionNormally i would do them on a 60-70 seconds so rest would be 20-30 seconds depending on who you are. I think climbing out and up on the blocks, plus the faster goal times, called for a little extra rest.
? P2Life - Performance NutritionI utilize it for my advance 12 and under’s. I brought a group of 14 and under’s, including a 10, 11 and 12 year old, to a national age group meet after training them this style for 6 weeks and it worked amazingly.
My 10 year old went from 39.5 in the 50 breast to 38.2 while also going from 2:40 to 2:32 in her 200 IM.
The 11 year old dropped from a 25.2 to 24.8 in the 50 free, while also dropping from a 2:19 to a 2:12 in her 200 back.
The 12 year old did not swim as well in this meet, but has gone from a 1:09 to a 1:05 in the 100 back, as well as a 5:45 to a 5:31 in the 500 free.
? P2Life - Performance NutritionI follow the main sets as close as possible. I also try and take technique very seriously. If a swimmer has a technique issue, we do drills, streamline kicking, builds and slower pace work. I try to avoid pushing them. I have had a lot of success fixing stroke but we also have small numbers this spring (1-4 swimmers/lane).
I kick a lot more then they suggest as well. We do kick warm-up almost everyday, I actually got this from the UW-Madison coaches. Depending on the amount of time I want to spend on the main set will dictate how much time I’m willing to spend on a kick warm-up, but our kids will do anywhere from 500-1500 yards kicking to warm-up (normally in 100’s on anywhere from 1:20-2:00 for our 12 and under’s).
I find that if we just have them jump in and swim, their technique is crap … so we kick. Plus the blood flowing to the legs helps promote a full body warm-up. Normally I follow warm-up with a 3-400 yard swim to finish it off. The kids enjoy it and I believe we are one of the strongest kicking teams in our region.
During the main sets I will do a lot of the sets off the blocks because I believe it’s the most important part of the race in terms of setting up energy usage. Practicing the exact details of the start, underwater, forward breakouts, the stroke tempo, approaching the turn, doing an aggressive turn and underwater to another forward breakout and so on. I did that more because we were in our “taper” time where speed was a major focus. Now that we are into long course season almost all sets have been from a push.
? P2Life - Performance NutritionMy name is Sam Davy. I am the head age group coach for Southwest Aquatics Team at the Madison, WI, location. I started doing a modified version of USRPT in Jan-Feb as I prepared my 12 and under team for state and had a lot of positive results. Then I utilized almost exclusively USPRT (focusing more on sets off the blocks) for 6 weeks from our 13+ State to the NASA Age-Group Showcase Classic on April 16-19 and saw some incredible results. Swimmers of mine went lifetime bests in 50’s up to 500’s in all strokes.
This summer I will be floating around the US working at camps and soaking up as much coaching knowledge as possible, but I anticipate running and exclusively USRPT program when I return to Madison in the fall.
? P2Life - Performance NutritionI was reading that article this morning and I agree with you Greg. If you can get the same results with less yardage/time that is valuable in itself. And it would be great to this study done with USRPT protocol.
Honestly I haven’t read the entire thing, but I would like to know the rationale behind the resting intervals.
I’m sure somebody will read this and say USRPT doesn’t work…I’m waiting for that email 🙂
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