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Participantwow…..this may be one of the most informative post i’ve seen on this forum, thanks for the responses
do you try to get a certain number of exposures for each stroke per week?
for example, a swimmer who is mostly fly/free/back. how many of each of those should they get in ea week?
hope that makes sense
Paul
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ParticipantThanks Geoff, that helps
So on Monday of an odd week you would start with dives then 4 sets of n x 50 @ 200 pace? Each set a different stroke? I may be reading that incorrectly.
Paul
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ParticipantIf it helps, they practice 5 days/week for 90 minutes
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ParticipantLonestar,
Great idea with the cont/ relay for young ones. I have somewhat of a graduated protocol whereby the top groups use the clock 100% (with misses/fails, keeping logs, etc), middle groups use clock & perform race pace sets but not as strict on the misses and the younger/beginner groups don’t use a clock at all, just technique & fast swimming. They’ll do a drill/swim where I talk about what I want them to do, demonstrate it on land, look at a picture or video then they swim it at a fast pace.
Great swim by your daughter there…..esp that start!!
Paul
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ParticipantUnless you’re going to swim in a meet with that drag suit……no go 🙂
Here’s your answer about “total completion” straight from the doc:
“The reaction to total completion should be to increase the velocity of swimming for each repetition so that the swimmer will fail to complete the total number for the set. Total completion indicates to the swimmer they have maximized their capacity to perform at the race-pace over the repetition distance for the
target swimming event. In traditional swimming, completing all the repetitions is good, but in USRPT it indicates that the training set was too easy and the swimmer did not experience a maximum training stimulus that would produce a full training-effect. Thus, in USRPT completing all repetitions (i.e., not failing) is not good because training was not as effective as it could be.”hope that helps
drpaul
Participantoldschoolc,
That’s pretty funny considering we are the Gators swim team!!
Thanks for the help
drpaul
ParticipantOld school,
Can you elaborate a bit more on those standardized sets? I taking over out team & we’ll be 100% usrpt. Just trying to have the best game plan possible.
Thanks,
Paul
Sorry for the hijack Rob 🙂
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ParticipantThanks Greg,
That’s what I’m looking for…..some examples of how other are organizing it. We have the schedule to where I don’t believe we’ll ever have more than 6-8 in a lane.
Just looking for examples & layouts
Paul
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Participantair132,
The pool temp is an easy one…..I agree with Rob, too warm to be productive & could possibly be dangerous. The ocean where I live is 84. We were in it last weekend & it wasn’t even refreshing. I couldn’t imagine trying to perform 2-4 USRPT sets in it.
As far as the knee, when I’m not trying to make kids go faster, I’m a Chiropractor (15yrs). Like any patient on the phone or email, there’s a lot of info I don’t about you & your knee (age, new injury, mechanism of injury, mri/xray?, etc, etc) so I would err on the side of caution & wait til it heals.
I guess you could do a little stroke work or some pulls to stay in the pool but we dumped 99% of that when we began USRPT.
Paul
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ParticipantMy kids LOVE our warm ups now. They might be 300yrds at most & most of the meets are so flippin crowded they get zero accomplished. Our last LC meet I watched in horror as these teams averaged 2500yrds of warmups/drill/etc!!!
Typically our kids have to re-warm up before their individual event & that’s when they work on pacing for that event.
Paul
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ParticipantJust wanting to get more info/opinions on this. We have the regular pace clocks and they are a little old & do not stay synced worth a crap so a digital clock feels like a must at this point
drpaul
Participant“One meet and you’re ready to change”
That’s not at all what I said & I’m not sure I need to “get over” anything. This is a results post & I was merely posting ours. When I’m not on the pool deck, I’m going on 15yrs as a practicing physician so I’m pretty aware of the physiological/biomechanical changes that take place in ones body as well as the adaptation process…..this is why I’ve chosen USRPT as our training method. I also stated we were 6 weeks into it…..not a couple.
I’m just wanting to ensure that I’m on the right track & as far as how much we’re doing, etc. I have zero plans to go back to a traditional model. I would think it’s human nature when you drastically change methods & see your kids struggle to question things a bit.
Stay the course I will
drpaul
ParticipantHad our first LC meet this past weekend. I’ve worked with only 3 of our teams swimmers this summer on 100% USRPT for 6 weeks (4 days/week, 3-4sets each practice).
the 14yo boy had a good meet & dropped time in almost everything BUT, I’m not sure if it’s just because his hormones are in full effect or because this is only his second year of swimming & some technique changes are helping him.
the 2 girls (13yo & 10yo….13yo being my daughter) swam like they’ve been out of the pool for 6 months. Now they both have been in traditional programs for 7 & 5 yrs respectively & I know it’s going to take some time but it was disheartening to see. I felt the blame & obviously questioned everything I was doing, even though I believe in USRPT. They looked “de-conditioned” if that’s a word.
oh well….not going to say it’s not working but not sure at this point what to change if anything
drpaul
ParticipantI struggle with the same issue. I am a physiology nerd so I’m 100% with the race pace swimming model. I am, however, concerned about the “amount” my kids are getting in. I want to transition this to our entire team next fall. I am working with only a few swimmers from our team right now (one being my daughter). I love what we are doing but 4 days/week, 3 sets per practice (avg 1200-1800 race pace) just makes me nervous some times.
Am I (or are they) doing enough? Can they do 3000yrds at race pace in 90min? Will it hurt them? I can’t remember why Dr. Rushall says 3-5x event length.
Anyway, I guess we’ll see in couple weeks at our first LC meet of the season
drpaul
ParticipantRob,
These are awesome!! I would have paid for them. Now I don’t have to look like an idiot doing the math in my head 🙂
Thanks a ton
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