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ParticipantMy interpretation is one, but practicalities rule.
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ParticipantYou have lots of good questions. Have you looked at Rushall’s bulletins. I suspect much may be covered in the Bulletins. We have limited experience with distance training and USRPT so afraid I can’t help much.
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#USRPTMay 21, 2014 at 3:05 pm in reply to: Ever appropriate to have them go through a whole event during practice? #1399Greg Tucker
ParticipantWe haven’t done it. Don’t necessarily disagree with it, but we do ask kids to “trust their training”. As I have mentioned before, we had numerous State qualifiers out of our fly lane. They never swam more than 25 flys.
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ParticipantYou either need to trust this training or not. Doing it 1/2 way and jumping back to TR after such a short period if time is crazy to me.
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ParticipantOld school, first, where ya been? Welcome back. Thanks for the quantitative data. I’m going to start working in ours today now that State Meet is over.
One question? I assume these are average percentage improvements. If so, over how many
Would live to see your spreadsheet? Gregtucker21@gmail.com
All the best.
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#USRPTMay 15, 2014 at 9:43 pm in reply to: Swimming Science Newsletter – USRPT NOT just a system of conditioning #1385Greg Tucker
ParticipantHmmmmm. Sounds different than his earlier article.
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ParticipantFair points, Kev. As mentioned, I will look at results from previous year where TT was used.
One other marker of success, higher ratio of state cuts to swimmers than previous year. Two kids that were seniors got cuts in their final year of training.
Yes , I advocate a study as well. What’s your preferred design?
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ParticipantDon’t know. I am new to team this year. I will try to find out. While pretty impressive, we do need a comparator.
We also had 21 State cuts, most in school history. Several seniors who had never achieved a cut before got one this year with USRPT.
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ParticipantThanks for sharing your work out. I wished more did this (right, Oldschool?).
I might consider 12.5s if you have pool space. We don’t do them, but Rushall’s chart calls for them. I remember if chart calls for 50s when training for 50s (I have a block). Maybe so e 25 FRs from time to time? It might help to add a little variety than all 25s BK.
I might also do a set of 6-8 25 BK all out once it twice a week.
Why drills? You trying to correct something in your stroke. If not, I would let your technique happen at race pace.
That’s just my $0.02.
When is your meet? Let us know your results.
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ParticipantAt our year-end banquet, we have a presentation aimed at parents, not to try to make parents coaches but do they would have a basic understanding if thus training method, how it differs from traditional training and how it may benefit their daughters. It was well received especially concepts around personal accountability, teamwork and trusting something new.
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ParticipantWe did something similar. Due to lane restrictions our 100 flyers never swam more than 25s all year. We had nine HS girls achieve their CO state cut.
On the other hand, our other 100 strokers swam 50s fairly routinely, especially at the end of the year. We had a similar number of successes as measured by State cuts in the breast and back. Conclusion: You can swim fast 100s either way??As mentioned earlier, we always arrange our lanes for similar speed strokers are swimming against – and pushing – each other. Conclusion: Kids love to push each other and make each other better.
We also take extra rest before the last two reps. Maybe 20-30 secs. Then we race, sometimes even putting two freestylers in a single lane and racing four abreast. We also work hard on no breathing for last seven strokes of free or last five of fly. On the last rep, we ask them not to breathe at all when they race. Conclusions: The girls like the “reward” of extra rest at the end of a hard set. Then they like to race fast. Ends set on a high note. The energy and cheering at the end builds team spirit as well.
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ParticipantJust a small correction. Michael Andrews does 2 sets per day, two strokes per set. Usually 60 – 75 mins.
His dad obviously knows him well. If he’s off the slightest bit (timed to 1/10 of a second), he rests. Or if he is really off, they will drop the whole practice. No slow swimming – at all – for Michael Andrew.
We had the privilege of watching him practice with Becca Mann and Josh Davis at the recent Lawrence clinic. Good kid, good family.
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ParticipantGood luck, Dr Paul. Post your results at some point.
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ParticipantOuch.
A couple of thoughts. A three week taper seems excessive for USRPT training. I dont see this in any of Rushall’s literature. And we certainly don’t do it
Yardage. It may be more important to girls than boys. That is what some of Rushall’s comments seem to suggest in his clinics. Maybe some traditional yardage training needs to be blended in for female distance swimmers. But, if trained properly, she should not die on 200s and 500s.
Do you know her sets for these distances? She should be swimming 3-5 x the yardage of the race. For example, 20 x 75s for the 500 or even 30 x 50 is the minimum. For the 200, she should be holding pace for 12 – 16 50s or 10-14 75s. If she can successfully complete these sets for 200 and 500 race pace training, then she should be able to swim goal times in these races.
Lastly, how is she calculating her goal time for races and then translating it to race pace training?
Hope my 2 cents helps. Good luck.
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ParticipantCraig, welcome. Can you give us an idea of your typical training sets and results?
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